@falseprofitmo@grok@mls_kp What's amazing is that the subtle little word plays (of someone with insight), historically accurate but unavailable (at the time) information, and even scientifically accurate information about the natural world from an unlettered prophet. The scriputure too remains uncorrupted.
@falseprofitmo@grok@mls_kp There's a reason that the Quran is regarded as a miracle. The greatest Arab poets, literary critics, and masters of eloquence of the time had heard it, and called it magic/sorcery because it was just that good. It openly challenges for someone to replicate it, and nothing has.
@falseprofitmo@mls_kp@grok Did the Quran have corrections to historical insights that wasn't in the bible, and align with archeological findings? (King/Pharoah, Day of adornment, Neither Heaven nor Earth wept, the Babylonian Astral triad)
@Anar_Majoris@ZsNightmare@beyondtheruins_ Being gay is not sinful, acting on it is sinful. It still doesn't condemn you to hell, it's a major sin, just as heterosexual sex outside of lawful marriage in a major sin.
Also, they tried raping two angels in disguise as guests.
@Anar_Majoris@ZsNightmare@beyondtheruins_ That is the balanced view.
If she wants an abortion, she has four months to get it, plenty of time. If she NEEDS and abortion, she can get it any time.
@Anar_Majoris@ZsNightmare@beyondtheruins_ Missing the forest for the trees. The laws against homosexuality exist on paper, aren't being enforced in practice. There is no task force that is hunting down gay people with four upright men to burst into the bedroom to witness penetration to convict the gay people.
@Anar_Majoris@ZsNightmare@beyondtheruins_ Where does Islam condemn gay people to hell for homosexuality? I literally told you it doesn't happen. You prove otherwise. Go ahead.
And you tried saying that women must ask men for permission to 'work', and I answered that too. That they don't need permission for ownership etc
@Anar_Majoris@ZsNightmare@beyondtheruins_ No such cases exist. The only ones that do are about gay people trying to marry each other under false pretenses (one pretending to be another sex). Again three years, or out after fine.
@Anar_Majoris@ZsNightmare@beyondtheruins_ How have you proven Islam is against gay people? You've proven that Muslim governments have laws against them. But nothing from the Quran. I never made an argument that Islam for feminism, it's gives an equitable structure with roles for men and women.
@Anar_Majoris@ZsNightmare@beyondtheruins_ In Pakistan imprisonment for three months, or a fine, or both. In 2018 a couple was arrested for kissing and cuddling in public, released on bail. In 2021, a couple in university was expelled after a proposal and hug. That I can remember off the top of my head.
@Anar_Majoris@ZsNightmare@beyondtheruins_ Did you read?
We don't have the same value system, an established person is much more valuable than a potential person, the whole paradigm in which the judgement is made is different from the US where they think a fetus is living person right at conception.
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